WTF? New rules allowing kids

I cant find the link but I just read it an hour ago and it was from airbnb its new rules

Please share if you can find that link. Their help pages still say hosts can choose, where allowed by law.

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Did you read this on Airbnb @diamond54?

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Yes it was new rules like You can’t say no kids you have to accept kids And you can’t charge for them.

I don’t blame you. Turn off the IB and when you get inquiries from people with kids find a reason to decline so that they can’t report you to ABB. Say you need the house for personal reason, or you’ll come up with something not to offend them.

ABB want families to travel, i understand but not all houses are equipped to deal with children and infants.

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These aren’t new rules; the policies have been the same for years. Here is one of the many threads from before you quit hosting. You must have simply forgotten over the last 9 months.

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I think you have got confused @diamond54. There are no rules that say you can’t charge for children. You can charge for over 2’s but not for infants.

And you can absolutely say no children if there are safety issues that make it dangerous for them to be in your accommodation.
The information below is taken from Airbnb.

## Why does Airbnb allow hosts to discriminate on the basis of age or familial status?

Airbnb is committed to developing an inclusive and respectful community that is welcoming of all people, but some listings have features that may be of concern to families traveling with children or infants. Where the law allows, hosts can place some reasonable restrictions on use of their listing, but if any guest feels they have been discriminated against because of their age, we will immediately investigate and help the guest find a place to stay.

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https://blog.atairbnb.com/more-host-controls/ I think this was it yes I think you can charge for kids but not infants . If I don’t want to rent to somebody I’m not going to .

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I recently had an American lawyer IB with another adult and a six-month-old. It is dangerous here for youngsters, and I am clear about that in my house rules, @diamond54. The lawyer insisted, citing Airbnb infants-don’t-count policy and claiming I was discriminating against women and children. She was coming anyway, and looking forward to reviewing, and she assured me there was nothing I could do about it.
I phoned Airbnb. I have to admit that my hands were shaking. I guess I’m scared of American lawyers.
Airbnb cancelled on my behalf, penalty-free. I really think you have nothing to worry about.

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Next time you just say, “Well, color your underpants important.”

https://www.sadanduseless.com/coloring-book-for-lawyers/

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Then don’t, if Air cancels your listing then that will show them.

RR

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Oh yeah! Very funny!

https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/433/can-children-travel-on-airbnb

See the bottom of this page for what makes a rental considered “kid safe”

Thank God I have cactus everywhere🤣

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I am updating my house rules right now. ‘Not safe for children. Swimming pool is not fenced and poisonous plants with thorns’
Will that do it?:smile:

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I have rattlesnake signs, you might want to ad that one☺️

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Well, I had to get a snake catcher out here to catch a 3m black mamba in one of my big trees. I could mention that in my listing, but that might deter all my guests, not just the children that I dont want :joy:

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When a company and its guests make me shake in my own home, it’s time to shop around.

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I am sorry that happened to you. I hope it never happens again. Some things to keep in the back of your mind are:

  1. American attorney/law licensure is good ONLY in the USA and may be further restricted so not valid in your area.

  2. Half the the time when a jackass blusters about being a lawyer, they have a lawyer cousin twice removed. They are not a lawyer.

  3. Anyone trying to bully their host, you don’t want as a guest. Decline or cancel the reservation with the comment, “I am open to rationally discussing guest needs and accommodating them as best I can. However I will NOT be bullied in or about my own home. I am declining this reservation request due to your rude behavior.”

I have a streak of red-neck so I would WANT follow it with, “BTW you can KMA!!!” I probably would not do it…

And of course report their bad behavior to Airbnb. I doubt Airbnb would do anything but at least you tried.

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@justMandi and @Annet3176, good points. I do feel pretty good about the outcome. I can’t say I eat American lawyers for lunch or anything, but without any drama on my side [no one could see my hands shaking :slight_smile: ] I got the booking cancelled. It helped that I have the dangers - platform, fast river, coyotes, woodstove, no room for baby gear without blocking the exit - clearly listed, and it really helped, I think, that I presented only the safety issues to CS and didn’t muddy up my ask by mentioning the threats/bullying of the guest. (That’s my advice to anyone in the same situation: present yourself as worried about the guest, not worried about yourself. Things go better.)
The downside was that the guest got “a little something to keep her happy” according to CS. So a trick for tricky guests, with this infant policy, could be to pick someplace highly inappropriate for an infant, demand that the infant be accepted per Airbnb policy, and when the host initiates the cancellation, get a travel credit for the booking you actually want.

The customer service agent indicated to me that she was well aware this was bad guest behaviour. Although I didn’t mention the bullying, she could see it clear as day in the messaging. When she told me the guest got a travel credit, she said it with a sigh. I think the worklife of a CS agent is no fun.
I expect a guest could get away with this only once, though. Hope so.

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