What if we create a database of problematic guests

Airbnb Blacklist on FB does exactly this.

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You’d only be able to block them if they requested you. And how would you know it’s the same person. It’s just not that simple. Even with a name that’s not that common there could be more than one. I guess all the arguments against a blacklist just aren’t very persuasive given the persistence of the idea.

Use a computer. :wink:

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I’m on my phone … super annoying as small as it is already without the pop ups but I don’t carry my computer around lol

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Yes, I know. It does the same on my phone. I don’t know a solution.

Where is the Airbnb blacklist of Airbnb hosts on FB?

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I’m sure there is one LMAO from some of the posts I’ve seen!

This whole idea is so crazy. Airbnb is global. About 2 million people use the service a year. How on earth can you create a database that covers such a quantity of travellers?

Oh wait. You’re just talking about the US, aren’t you? Well, that’s only about 1 million you have to deal with so… yeah, crack on!

@Betty_A I think there was quite a scandal involving that Airbnb guest hater page. A woman went crazy and hired people to stage a break in on the advice of people in a facebook group, I think that was the same one. Then when TSHTF (I hope you know that acronym) they denied it and deleted the posts. I’m just waiting for someone to sue someone for libel over those posts.

I agree. But where is it? It would be much easier to make a host blacklist than a guest one.

But what is your suggestion for hosts who have left honest reviews, and then get an enraged post-stay reaction from the guest - contacting CS, retaliatory accusation of discrimination or other issue, in one case I read about making post-stay false claims about discrimination or the safety of the home and actually getting she listing shut down, harrassing messaging on the platform, social media harassment, negative review on google tripadvisor and other sites, etc.

This is a real thing.

But maybe we are on the same page, I think it is possible to leave an honest but diplomatically worded review that will alert other hosts but not enrage the guest.

Ohhhhhhh lmao ok never heard of it but thank you :slight_smile:

yes, it does exactly that, but very badly, and very limitedly. I searched the database for ā€˜John’ and I got 9 results, and I imagine they’re still using Airb, but with a different account, or using their travel buddies account. Compared to how our review system works, the Blacklist page isn’t worth a thing.
In short, if they’re noisy and messy, mention it and dock them a couple of stars

Join the FB Airbnb Blacklist group. It provides very detailed information on bad acting guests. At minimum it will inform you of the various games guests play & what to be weary of. Also, the site is moderated very well & they shut down comments that are off topic or critical of the OP.

Which unfortunately makes it a rather useless echo chamber. Hosts will post their experiences, and often you can see where they went wrong (exacerbating or creating the problem themselves), but heaven help you if you try to point that out or suggest an alternative way of handling those situations in the future.

It was an entertaining dumpster fire, though, for the week or so that I followed it.

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Well each forum has its own little approach, rules, and enforcement. Some forums allow for a community discussion, others don’t. It’s all in one’s preference. I’m a member of 6 groups and find useful info in all on them in some form or another.

There is a FB host black list group, less than 200 hundred members, just formed in July 2019. I may or may not already be listed there :wink:

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I think we are :slight_smile:

As you know I’ve been doing this for many years and I’ve never had a guest whose behaviour I’ve had to ā€˜correct’ indulge in any sort of retaliation at all. Is it the way that their behaviour is gently pointed out to them? The way that I feel that most guests have a personal connection with me? I have no idea but whatever it is, I do wonder if the hosts who get these sort of retaliatory actions must have done something to engender such an attitude of hatred?

But to be honest, as long as guests pay, are quiet and comparatively clean & tidy, that’s what I care about. A negative review won’t bother me, I’m not frightened by harrassing messages etc. Plus, I can’t imagine how I could insult a normal, civilised person to the extent that they’d report me for any sort of discrimination. And if they did, who would Airbnb believe? A superhost who makes them plenty of money all year and has plenty of great reviews or a guest who might use Airbnb once or twice a year if that?

It’s a huge shame that the system has created hosts who are scared of retaliatory acts from guests. I realise that today, with all the opportunities we have online to review and rate just about everything, that the system is beyond anyone’s control but that doesn’t mean that it has to intimidate us.

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