John, you are doing it again … Cooking and making me hungry from across the pond. Lol!!!
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Technically, the Guests were legally negligent, and so can be held liable. But, Air’s T&Cs also apply.
Definitely SUCKS. Hopefully, you have it in writing from Guest in Air’s system that “they left the garage door open” (liability and admission of guilt).
Good luck!
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He may not have ALL the answers, but his answers are factual and correct, which yours about reviews is NOT. Go read the section about reviews.
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It’s also a bit about what a person is used to… I have a door between the house and the garage that is always locked… but I live in the city and not the suburbs. Also, guests, don’t have access to the garage. Oh, and I live in the house with my guests. I’m constantly surprised at how often guests forget to lock the front door??? At least the close it… most of the time. And I’ve been doing this for over 7 years!
Sorry…
December is a good month here, it’s when the suckling pigs (cochinillo) and whole milk fed lamb appear in the butchers and supermarkets. Many households roast one of these, as opposed to Turkey, for their traditional Christmas meal.
I managed to get a shoulder of cochinillo, a whole one is a bit much for just two, and it was lovely 
Went really well with my latest bodega find, Oloroso Viejo at €5 per litre, straight from the cask 
JF
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John, I think you meant “sorry … Not sorry” 
I keep meaning to find some of your vintage. But I end up buying other stuff first … Need to keep looking!
Oh come on. Do ANY of us have anything to track when a Guest has left windows / doors / garage doors open when they leave the house?
There are limits to what a host can try to anticipate. Blatant stupidity and negligence are not things that a Host should have to prevent.
Bottom line is the Guest Fk’d up. It is negligence and they should be held accountable.
The host did NOTHING WRONG. The Guest did. Period. End of story. Why would any of us defend the guest here?
Beyond silly.
You’ve construed my post about guest proofing a rental into something else. Guest proofing rentals has been a rather uncontroversial topic which we’ve posted about for years. I don’t how many of us have the technology to track when a guest leaves openings…open.
Yes.
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And I don’t recall anyone posting about theirs yet but such systems exist and I’d guess the time is coming when they will be considered just as essential for hosts who don’t live on site as exterior cameras are now.
A house my daughter lived in already had a security system when they bought the place, where an intercom system had a canned voice that would say “Front Door” or “Back Door” if the door was left open or someone entered or exited. It drove me nuts when I stayed with them, because I’m a night owl who stayed up much later than she and her family did, and would often nip out for a smoke.
They could deactivate it, and did during the day when everyone was going in and out, but they would turn it on when they went to bed. I don’t know if it also could be programmed to include the windows.
Had one around twenty years ago, a buzzer beeped quite loudly if an exterior door was left open. You could set the delay (well, the engineer did) until it started beeping.
Given how tech has advanced since then, I’m sure there is a system out there that’ll give remote notifications.
JF
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Yes, quite affordable sensors that connect to the home’s internet system are available. I don’t know anything about all their features but one I’d want would be a notification after a door has been left open for several minutes, not each time it opens or closes as folks go in and out. I’ve noticed with guests here that they are bad about leaving doors open as the bring their stuff in from the car. I wonder if the flies and mosquitos in their room then bother them? They certainly bother me when I’m trying to kill them all the next day.
fekkin home internet system? no thanks
I know very well how many folks feel about this, including some of my best friends. But I will tell you as someone living alone and seeing a friend nearly die in his home over the course of a couple of weeks because he couldn’t move, that if mine saves my life it will be worth it.
When hosts live in a gated community and are on site there are fewer worries about a rando walking in and trashing the place though.
A friend of mine in Canada was in very bad health- another mutual friend who is a nurse got him set up with something called Lifeline. It wasn’t internet-based, but a device like a wristwatch he wore that he only had to press if he needed help and it connected to some emergency facility that would send someone out right away. Maybe it worked off a satellite signal, not sure.
Many of us of a certain age grew up laughing at the “help, I’ve fallen and I can’t get up” ads for some device that sounds like Lifeline. But when you can’t move, even after you’ve been in the hospital for days or weeks the idea of a device that is voice activated that can call people on the system, read you an audiobook, turn your lights off and on, play music, tell you the news and weather…anyway I was already sold on such devices then saw how they can help first hand with my friend.
I’m not going to argue with people who have privacy concerns because I think those concerns are valid. Like anything with potential dangers, the pros and cons have to be weighed.
THIS! And great analogy with the car rental.
THIS TOO!
And most emphatically NOT “the Host is wrong for not anticipating blatant and outright guest negligence and stupidity, and spending money on some tech to detect / alert host”.
If only one party (host or guest) leaves a review, the review will go up after 14 days.
It is what it is.
If it were true (it is not) you should not have left a review for ‘Machelle’ → That review left you out in the cold and in deep doo doo.
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Just thinking about putting one on a spit with a nice Afghan spice rub has me drooling. And leftover tiny chops with breakfast eggs.