Wanting to visit & inspect property whilst guests stay

With John McEnroe arguing with the umpire?

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LOLOL…

This reminds me of a recent post on a day in the life of a moderator.

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For hosts in the UK there is a useful article here about the different types of “tenancy” with reference to Airbnb. It’s not quite as straightforward as I thought, especially as, by my reading anyway, it looks as though an Airbnb guest in a totally separate accomodation is in fact a type of tenant rather than a licensee, though not having the same rights as a tenant on a shorthold agreement.

Please note that I’m not posting in order to be controversial, or saying that I’m right and x is wrong, but I think this is a useful explanation in simple, non-legal language, of how the law relates to Airbnb in the UK

It also makes me a bit worried about the OP’s situation as this is very clearly not a holiday let and s/he could possibly be seen as an illegal landlord. Arranging regular cleaning of the property while tenants are there could avoid this as they would it would then become “serviced accommodation” As the article says:

However, if it is ‘serviced accommodation’ where there are cleaning services and any other services where you have keys and go into the property regularly to clean and change sheets etc, it could be a license rather than a tenancy.

Something to think about?

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I think this is really useful @Malagachica.

Airbnb was designed for short term lets from a few days to a few weeks but I do appreciate that some hosts do let out for longer term.

Although I don’t know any hosts personally in the UK that would look at such long term lets who have whole listings, I appreciate there are some such as @tan8856 that are using it outside of the purpose it was originally designed for; providing longer term accommodation for those working here on temporary contracts or for student accommodation, for example.

I think any host looking to do a longer term let in England and Wales, as in this case here ie three months or more, should be checking where they stand legally before agreeing an extension and looking to see if they need to have a contract in addition to what a guest signs up to on Airbnb as they do in the US for post 30 day lets. However this wouldn’t be the same as assured shorthold tenancy under which there are tenant rights.

For the rest of us who have shared accommodation or whole listings for less than three months, I believe we are fine using the Airbnb agreement.

Oh thank goodness for that.
And just in case it isn’t, let me remind you of our forum rules.
You need to behave in a more civil and respectful manner here.
Consider that an official warning if you want to continue posting on this forum.

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Goodbye Felicia??? :rofl:

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How was I not being civil? Anyway, I could care less. Lol

Hosts and Guests is ABB speak and covers a multiple of relationships types.

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Didn’t someone say the other day that the correct phrase is:
I couldn’t care less…not, I could care less.

Oh well, she’s gone now, anyway so I’ll just Lol to myself.

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I could not care less. Saying I could care less doesn’t make sense. It’s like people who write “would of” instead of “would have,” they don’t know what is being said, they are spelling phonetically. It’s like all those song lyrics I mis-heard in my youth.

It’s urban slang which @Wendie clearly doesn’t understand.

Saying ‘I could care less’ means ‘I am interested’.

That’s not what Airbnb says on the subject:

https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/887/what-are-airbnb-s-rules-about-electronic-surveillance-devices-in-listings

Of course you may have laws that override that in your area, but no such laws affect my ability to have security cameras on my property. Without knowing where all posters live, you can’t say they’re “100% against the law”

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If you often have guests like these, why not put in a couple of air mattresses, put your amount of people up to 6 and put up your day rate. I would look at it as an opportunity to get a few more £’s!