Wanting to visit & inspect property whilst guests stay

Even Banksy knows it!

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Banksy is of course from Bristol :slight_smile:

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Disagree completely. Suvellience cameras in the house of a rental property are 100 % against the law.

Sorry I thought we were talking about Airbnb, not tenants. There is a legal difference between a guest and a tenant in the US where I am.

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Does anyone really know his identity??:sunglasses::rofl::rofl::rofl:

If I told you I would have to shoot you :slight_smile:

Not only is he from Bristol but he is from the part of Bristol I live in and there is a very old Banksy about 30 seconds from my place…

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Not in England and Wales - the majority of our social housing has CCTV both outside and in the communal areas.

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In a communal area such as a hotel lobby, I can see that which is far different than a house. The front entrance of a house (if rented out as a whole house) is by no means a communal area.

Yes, there is a difference. By definition, a guest is someone who is staying with you and not paying rent. A tenant is someone who is paying rent.

Except when the guest is a …paying guest :slight_smile: i.e. hotels i.e. B&B i.e. Airbnb

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No such thing as a ‘paying guest’. A full house is not a hotel. The definition of a B&B means that you live there and provide breakfast. What I am talking about is a full house that has been rented out for longer than 29 days, as the original post suggested. You now have a tenant.
Try standing up in a court of law indicating that you put surveillance cameras in the house and entered the premises when the tenant was not there and without notice.

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The original poster said that he/she rents long term, not for a few days.

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Yes but I wasn’t talking about the OP specifically but the principle.

Not in England and Wales. I’m not sure why you keep insisting that you know the law better than I do in my own country.

And we weren’t advocating inside the house but at the entrance.

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What on earth are you talking about. THAT IS what Airbnb is.
I don’t know what point you are trying to make by giving us traditional definitions of things. And by making blanket statements about law and jurisdictions. What’s true in NY may or may not be upheld in California.

Your argumentative posts are getting tedious. Most of us don’t need lectures on what constitutes a guest or a tenant.

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What I am stating is fact. I am finding your arguments tedious and ridiculous. You are talking about going into a rented property without notice and putting up surveillance cameras. Really? That is ridiculous and I would never rent off of you as my privacy would absolutely be compromised.
I love airbnb and have two furnished properties with all 5-star reviews. I respect my guests/tenants and would never interfere with their right to privacy.
Regarding NY, I am pretty certain that anything under 30 days is now illegal.
Conversation with you is now over.

I knew about public CCTV of course (remember the cat and wheelie bin story?) but I’ve just been checking and it seems you are all absolutely right about private ones - I must say I was shocked to read how many there are in/outside private homes … obviously more has changed in the last 10 years than I thought!

This is categorically untrue. There are now some limitations to STR in New York City, but certainly none in Schenectady or Syracuse.

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(whew!) This is like watching a tennis match.

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Actually it was me that said they were increasingly common for people to have them for their homes. Ellen was talking more broadly about the amount we have on our streets and commercial buildings.

For housing, I think this is a mix of it being much cheaper to install and increasing worries about burglaries and anti-social behaviour.

It’s certainly fairly standard to have them now on private and social housing estates as well.

Pertinent to this discussion;

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/domestic-cctv-using-cctv-systems-on-your-property/domestic-cctv-using-cctv-systems-on-your-property"