To snark or not to snark?

Hey, I want to thank you all for all of your helpful messages I’ve read over the years that have guided me along the way!

About a week ago, I had received a request to book for 2 nights (Saturday & Sunday). After a few messages back and forth, I accepted only to then receive an “Awaiting Payment” notification. I called customer support and successfully had them cancel the reservation. I notified the guest of her payment method being invalid and she claimed to fix it, so not listening to my gut, I accepted her second request.

Communication was good until my mother checked her and her friend in (at 3pm - I was at work). My mother showed them about and I sent her a welcome message with the wifi details and another with a list of restaurants and places nearby to visit. I received no response (does not raise any alarm as some guests get busy settling in and exploring). Sunday morning, I sent a message at 9am asking if they got settled in okay and to let I or my mother know (they were supplied with both phone numbers) if they have any questions or need anything. No response. At about 1230pm my mother (who was out gardening) told me the ladies handed her the keys outside and said they were leaving early. When she inquired if there was anything wrong, the guest stated the place was dusty. My mother went into the property to make sure the air conditioner and lights were off, and saw the toilet seat lid broken off and lying on the tank.

I immediately messaged the guest who claimed it was received that way and that the place was dirty and that she took a video of it all before she left :roll_eyes:. I called Airbnb to report the damage and start a claim.

I know the place was completely clean because I personally clean it with a cleaning woman. I keep (at least) 2 days in-between reservations to make sure the place is aired out for at minimum 24 hours (Covid) before we clean. It would have been entirely impossible for either of us to have missed a broken toilet seat during the cleaning process (who doesn’t clean their toilets?!).

Either way, below are the messages I’ve sent to her regarding damage and replacement cost. She has denied and refused, but is letting the 72 hour timer run it’s course (currently at 53 hours left). Her final message to me is, unsurprisingly, rude. I wrote out a response, but have not yet sent it as the ending is snarky and I’m not sure if I’m doing myself a disservice being so blatant about it/going back and forth.

***** The unsent response*****

Sarle’,

I have never presumed to know you personally, I am simply describing the natural course of events that any person would take upon receiving a service that they consider to be inadequate.

I understand you had a busy schedule, we all have active lives/work outside of Airbnb. I had messaged you 3 times since you had checked in (on Friday at 3pm) – while I was at work both Friday and Saturday – (sending you wifi details, an extensive list of restaurants and places to visit nearby, and to check in and see if everything was okay and if had any questions or needed anything) with absolutely no response from you, let alone notifying us that anything was wrong/broken. According to your statement, that is the reason you did not bring this up using any of the means of communication accessible to you, one that would have taken mere seconds; writing a message via the Airbnb messaging platform, texting or calling my mother or I etc. You did, however, have time to take a video right before you checked out, highlighting that you had no issues to report initially (having received a clean place, slept in freshly laundered linen, and made use of a clean, working, unbroken toilet). You took a video after damage to the toilet had been done because you knew we would raise this damage with you since you did not have the decency to be forthright, upfront and honest about it of your own accord.

My mother walked you in and presented the property to you at check-in. She did not prevent you or your friend from entering the bedroom, kitchen or bathroom. I am sure that if you had seen that the place was dusty/dirty (as you claim), you would have raised it up right then and there (as my mother was showing you about), but that was not the case. My mother did not physically walk you into the bathroom as 3 adult women would not easily fit into it at the same time, as well, trying to respect Covid-19 social distancing guidelines of 2 meters (6 ft.) apart. We rely upon the quality of the cleanliness that we pride ourselves on (high standards that have lead us to have 5 stars and Superhost status since we began hosting in 2018), amongst other things. In hindsight, perhaps a short description of how to use a toilet seat properly seems to have been in order. Going forward, we will endeavor to add this to our check-in procedures.

Thank you for your sentiments and concern regarding our future guests. I hope you stay safe and improve the quality of your mannerism and honesty with other future hosts whose properties you will stay in.

Regards,

Tohar


Should I use this ending (A), or supplement it with (B), or not send any message at all?

A) …In hindsight, perhaps a short description of how to use a toilet seat properly seems to have been in order. Going forward, we will endeavor to add this to our check-in procedures.

Thank you for your sentiments and concern regarding our future guests. I hope you stay safe and improve the quality of your mannerism and honesty with other future hosts whose properties you will stay in.

Regards,

Tohar

B) …Thank you for your sentiments and concerns regarding our future guests, I’m confident our standards will not disappoint.

Regards,

Tohar

Please reference our previous message stream in the attached pictures.

Sorry for the long diatribe, and thank you for any and all help! :heart:

Send in a claim to Airbnb and move on.

Wait till last second on review and mark her down as you see fit, and click no to “would you host etc”.

Annoying, yes; but is your time worth all this grief for a fifty buck toilet seat?

JF

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Haha…thank you for talking me off this stupid ledge :slight_smile: Just as I had submitted this here, that thought passed through my mind. I stupidly allowed myself to get worked/caught up in defense of her lies.

Will do! I (sadly) have experience regarding last second reviews.

Again, thank you for pulling my sanity back to the forefront! :heart:

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I have to agree with @JohnF . Obviously, I don’t know how much your hourly rate is but I doubt that it’s financially worth your while for the sake of a loo seat!

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Short review - "Guest was greeted by co-host and shown around the house. We messaged guest several times during their stay with additional information and checking in that all was well. Guest did not reply to any messages or mention any issues. Upon checkout, guest informed co-host of dirt (that wasn’t there as I personally clean with a cleaning person) and a broken toilet seat. Guest denied breaking the seat (it was intact when we cleaned it 2 days prior and house left empty until guest arrived). Poor communication, would not host again.

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Perhaps you enjoy drama? IMO, a huge waste of time over a mere toilet seat.
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Your business model should account for occasional minor damage, broken mugs/glasses, stolen towels, etc.
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If that was the only issue, just say nothing, fix it and give whatever review you like on day 14. Now, you have a ton of wasted time (including posting here) and risk a bad review.

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Thanks…it’s not. I got initially pissed that she didn’t have the decency to let me know. Had she, I would have thanked her for her honesty and moved on. Posting it all out here immediately gave me the perspective I needed. Thank you!

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Aww…that is very sweet of you! Thank you so much! :heart:

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Haha…never before saw any indication I do, but I’m cutting my pregnancy hormones a bit of slack here :blush: Hey, at least posting it out here (instead of on Airbnb) helped stop this toilet crusade :joy::woman_shrugging:t2:
(We do account for minor damages/theft, I guess her dishonesty spurred my thought process in the wrong direction. First time for everything and I am eagerly learning.)

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@Sihara Her “Be blessed” sign-off is what would have really gotten me irritated. One of my pet peeves is people who screw others over, yet have some image of themselves as spritual.

“Yes, Sarle, I certainly hope to be blessed with better guests than you- you know, ones who don’t damage things, lie, and refuse to pay for what there is zero doubt they broke.”

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Haha yeah…it unnerved me enough to stir me on until common sense prevailed. Your response is spot on!

I am one that has to check herself often! I am a bit of a perfectionist when dealing with my properties, and one of them is 1300 miles away so that isn’t always easy. I had to learn that everyone has a different opinion as to what they expect, and often times we find that behaviors on the part of guests is often times a deflection of what our cleaning team will find when they get there. I have come to a resolve that I do not charge guests for accidents (broken dishes or nick nacs) toilet seats fail over time and in the 3 years we have been hosting on our cabin property we have gone through 3 toilet sets in the 2 bath property… so I count that as normal maintenance and apologize to my guest that it broke…

but I have also had rugs chewed by dogs, I always charge full price for pet damage, bringing the dog is a privilege, and the guest needs to show vigilance to insure there is no damage, I have also had an antique light fixture broken, parts were thrown away, I approached the guest on this because they did not report the damage. and they said it appeared to be hand made and not of huge value, so they were quite surprised when they received the bill for $350 and tried to argue the amount with Airbnb, but I had the receipt for the light that we just added to the home 4 months prior and it was made by a local artist, it was a 70’s type over table chandelier set into a galvanized wash basin. when I asked how it was broken she told me her kids were playing on the bed and one of them grabbed it. she did end up paying for it and I had it redone by the same artist. if it would have been a table lamp, regardless of the value (I don’t leave things that can’t be replaced in this property) I would have chalked that up as a price to do business, but there is no reason a filing light should be damaged, and if the kids were jumping on the bed she certainly should have known and put a stop to it. so I try and determine negligence or accident, if it is an accident then we typically don’t charge, but we always charge for negligence on guests part.

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Spiritual is wonderful religious is not

Agree. A BIG red flag goes up for us whenever someone is “a person of faith”. We have seen way too many hypocrites use lines like that.

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How does one completely break off the top of the toilet seat? Every toilet seat I’ve ever had is held on by bolts and wouldn’t come off without a wrench.

Some of them are secured with plastic bolts. The idiots (guest) must have stood on it …
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There’s a huge difference between walking the walk & using the words to instill false confidence

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Poor thing, when you went to so much trouble to ensure everything was nice for them. They seemed to be looking for trouble. Wishing you lovely guests in future…:slight_smile: