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As a mid 70s geezer who has suffered through childhood TB and cancer, I am making every effort to avoid exposure. Fortunately, a huge majority of my community is masking, distancing, and maintaining social bubbles, in Alaska, where we were requiring 14 day quarantine on arrival until fishing season started. We have kept our infection rate down because everyone here cares about accidentally infecting their friends or neighbors so they wear a mask.
For folks like you, “conservative” means selfish and self centered, and “freedom” means the right to threaten everyone else, whether it’s with a virus or a gun.
The rest of us aren’t taking it any more, as you will find out in 12 days.
Step outside your small town US centric bubble and you’ll find that statement to be a load of old bollocks.
Airbnb is a global brand and have implemented a policy that they feel will protect hosts and guests, and for us, it’s the law. For many other hosts, it’s either the law, or local legislation.
For the rest, it’s simply common sense.
Nope. Got guests arriving in around four hours from Barcelona, major hotspot with a local lock down in place. Masks, gloves and social distancing is simply what we do, to stay safe, and potentially protect our guests from us…
Maybe someone at Airbnb had a sneaky peak at our current hosting protocols before making this global
You slipped into a little bit of strawman territory there. I didn’t advocate making all decisions myself. I understand that society does have legitimate requirements on my behavior. I was referring to a very specific decision, one which could in fact be a life and death decision about my health. In the fear pandemic that we are living in we are rushing to judgment about the safety of a vaccine that is not being put through the normal development and testing process. You seem like a reasonable person, however the totalitarian impulse is strong on the left these days. It seems that many are willing to throw away all individual liberty for a little bit of unproven safety. So in addition to getting yourself vaccinated are you willing to give up the business of all customers who may not be vaccinated? You might want to think twice about that since current public opinion surveys suggest at least half the people in the US at least are not willing to be guinea pigs on this vaccine. I have no idea what the situation may be in other countries.
I’ve never been to your great state although my great grandmother was there for the gold rush. I understand you have a lot of wide open spaces which may help you keep your numbers down although I note a report in the New York Times today that says that your test numbers have recently reached an all time high. Perhaps all that masking isn’t quite as effective as you believe.
I’ve always understood that Alaska was a great libertarian state so I don’t expect any surprises in your election results but that’s not really the point. You are certainly welcome to take whatever precautions you believe are necessary to protect your own health. When you endorse a policy that says that only people that are vaccinated can host and stay at a B&B, you have taken a giant step away from personal liberty and responsibility. Thankfully we still live in a capitalist system where there are other services beyond Airbnb. I understand they are in the process of doing a stock offering. I don’t think I would be investing in this company. As we have seen in other industries, most notably sports, media and entertainment, in America it is still true that, “get woke, go broke!”
This is the same one-size-fits-all policy that has caused so much economic destruction around the world. Step outside your own virus-crazed environment in Barcelona and realize that there are many places in the world that are not living in fear. Why should we be required to do things that are clearly beyond local regulations because you have different regulations in your area? How about you do you and I’ll do me?
No, it is basic human decency to try and protect other people. What I have a problem with is entitled people who only care about themselves. I went through a drive through fast food yesterday and they had an employee out taking orders, 90% of the people in the cars could not bother to put on a mask. I gave her a $10 bill and suggested she stand further away from those people.
Certainly no more so than you are. You went from Airbnb mask policy to speculating to an Airbnb vaccine policy to a wide ranging series of comments.
I am indeed willing to give up the business of people unwilling to get a vaccine if that’s what the science based, reasonable policy dictates in the coming months. I’ll determine that when the time comes.
You don’t do reading either, do you. Our guests are from Barcelona.
Anyway, I find your comment grossly offensive on the basis that several thousand folks have died in Barcelona, and many more are currently extremely ill from Covid, some will recover, some won’t.
Small town trolls like you are fun for a while, sometimes. However you have stepped over the mark here.
I’m finding it interesting that we are told that this forum is NOT the place for ‘political’ commentary or statements. then …statements about ‘anti maskers’, anti vaxers, or COVID deniers…LOTS of ‘political’ commentary is seen from anyone who disagrees with a ‘conservative’, including name calling and disparanging remarks insinuating (like conservatives live in the past which is charming but not practical’)…that anyone conservative is a knuckle dragging red neck moron who doesn’t give a damn about cleanliness, other’s health and safety , etc etc. It’s insulting. I am a conservative, and a successful Airbnb host with a superb reputation. I have always cleaned beyond expectations or ‘instruction’. I do not mask, and because MY read on the science is different from the majority here, doesn’t make me an ogre or an irresponsible person. My community and all my surrounding communities are barely affected by this situation. Fewer than 32 fatalities from/with (no one knows for sure) since March out of 55k people. My government has dropped all ‘mandatory’ edicts because our situation (except for two large cities) has improved remarkably. We never had draconian lockdowns or mandates, just requests to follow guidelines. I resent some others here who continue to say disparaging things about someone who has a different OPINION about this situation and how to handle daily life, especially since it does NOT affect them in any way. I deal with my bookings carefully, with questions, instructions to guests, and understand they come to my cabin in over 1,000 acres of fresh air and sunshine in an area relatively free from serious illness, and I do so responsibly in relation to the ‘risk’. And ALL of them have been supremely grateful that I am open to them to get away from the occasional tyranny they often are enduring. Rant over, and it’s one reason why I quit coming here for ‘advise’ or information. Sad how ‘certain’ groups tell others to be tolerant and then turn around and NOT be so themselves. Hypocritical to say the least. Carry on all.
I am definitely not trolling. These are my sincere and strongly held beliefs. I was just wondering if anyone else in this forum might share them. Apparently if they do they have chooses not to say so, at least not yet.
Trolling doesn’t mean you don’t believe what you’re saying. It means, among other things, you just want to get people wound up for your entertainment. It means you aren’t contributing anything of value to a hosting discussion. It can include joining a forum community for the sole purpose of posting the provocative material, causing grief then sulking away claiming victimhood, censorship, etc.
People are dying, people are sick and our members aren’t untouched by this pandemic. Maybe the people who share your beliefs are keeping them to themselves out of unselfish respect for others. Maybe they left because we aren’t a support group. Surely, they find members here hostile to their views.
Most members here have the same answer to those who don’t like Airbnb policies: quit listing on Airbnb.
Right wing and conservative political parties throughout the world encourage folks to wear a mask, simply because the science has shown that aerosol transmission is the biggest danger.
But not in the good 'ol US of A. If you’re pro mask, you must be a left wing libertarian.
How the feck has a country managed to politicise a cheap and simple method to reduce infection…
I think all you anti maskers are a bunch of selfish clowns, too wrapped up your little version of “freedom”.
But wait, hang on, it’s not just me!
Read the press from outside your small town, nay, read the press from outside the US.
Your country is being ridiculed in more languages than you probably even know exist.
Anyway, it’s nice to have new trolls, things have been a poco tranquillo about here for a while.
Based on the kind of listing they have, probably not. If people are going there to escape what they think is “tyranny” they aren’t going to report the host.
As we’ve discussed in other contexts, it’s not hard to find hosts with values that match your own if you look at the listing carefully, know what kind of area you are going to and so on.
In any case, the virus doesn’t care what anyone believes. It’s going to keep on doing it’s thing and in the face of the widespread surrender by US policymakers and many residents, it’s winning the argument.
