Oh wow I thought I was good (being a mum of 3 makes you pretty good at stain removal) but you have taught me heaps here. Thank you
I did use a stain soak oxi action thing first (paste & toothbrush) I don’t recognise those brands you mention. Googled, they seem to be available on Amazon but not in stores. I thought Fairy was cheap rubbish, ha. Have never bought it. I do use those “eco” cleaners wherever I can but yes, sometimes you need that extra level of chemical help.