Hi Mearns, most hosts on Airbnb work very hard to establish themselves within the network and to build a reputation that naturally grows and strengthens over time. A lot of energy is put into customer development and to have an individual or group of individuals within the Airbnb organization take it upon themselves to de-activate a listing for no apparent reason is just not acceptable. The people they are cutting off were loyal customers and in some cases solely dependent on Airbnb for their revenue stream. Itâs just bad business and if they could be challenged legally for doing so in a class action lawsuit then I would certainly join one. Maybe I will create one.
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I tweeted directly to Brian Chesky and the other founders, got a response back from Chesky and resolution of my issue. Take to Twitter.
Unfortunately we are subjected to their whims. Iâve heard before that once people are delisted, thereâs no need (legally) for them to give an explanation.
The positive thing here, and Iâve looked at your website, is that you have a great setup and can hopefully adjust your marketing so that you donât have to rely on Airbnb.
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There is always a reason, though it may not be reasonable. I get the impression that Airbnb is being pushed from so many quarters all at once, that it goes from one knee-jerk reaction to another to satisfy the loudest squeaky wheel.
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Hi Konacoconutz,
I willxertainly try twitter. Thanks again for your advice
Hope it works. Thanks, Chris
I didnât get this notice. Maybe, since I have a private room, it didnât apply?
True. But Iâm sure they donât mean add another 699 listings 
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What a hoot!! Please tell me itâs owned by Indians.
Did you just call me a name??? 
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When I made my post I spoke in general terms. To rebut with your specific experience means only one thing; your specific experience. And for each person who has your experience there is someone telling a completely different story.
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Sorry if you donât think Airbnb send mixed messages; the facts say otherwise. They emphasise theyâre about home sharing and living with a local. They delist loads of NYC hosts with multiple listing days before their data is released to make it look like most of their users are home sharers. They start host experiences where you get to experience the city with a local host. All of this points to individual, tailored unique experiences with the basis being the sharing economy. Which means home sharing by the way⌠Airbnb recently ran a campaign in London where supposed hosts said things like: Airbnb helps me expand my shoe collection; I have a better night life thanks to Airbnb; all that suggests small change not a business enterprise. This ad ran in late 2015 early 2016. And who can forget the TV ad.
Airbnb has evolved overtime; its no longer about home sharing but they continue to pretend it is, while to be honest most of their money comes from hosts with multiple properties. This Is altogether different proposition but Airbnb has stuck with their narrative and continue to pretend itâs the same as it ever was. Meanwhile governments are noticing depleting housing stock as itâs definitely more lucrative to list on Airbnb. We all know the list of cities that have now legislated against Airbnb. Why do they do that? Because itâs no longer about the sharing economy.
So yes Airbnb does send mixed messages; multiple listing guys make Airbnb significant money, but theyâre also the reason governments are starting to legislate against it. Airbnb literally doesnât know what to do. Cut off the hand that feeds it or continue to pretend itâs all about home sharing? The latter of course.
@Zandra
Mixed signals? Maybe to you, not to me, their present journey is quite clear. I donât care what they say, but rather what they do; their âromance copyâ is part of the BS of advertising and business. It is up to the individual to keep their eye on the bowling pin that counts, while the court jester is doing his entertaining juggling act with many.
Every single business morphs over time, they start one way and end up slowly drifting toward what turns out to make them more money, ~with the least amount of hassles~. It is the old âretailâ vs. âmass distributorâ consideration.
Of course, even as Airbnb experiments with other business models, and even aggressively pursues them, count on them to continue to âpretendâ they are all about âMom & Pop Home Sharingâ, that being their original beginnings and base model, and count on them to continue to pay it lip service do so to do keep that slice of the pie. That is how they got their foot in the door. But nothing remains the same forever, oftentimes for valid reasons.
Perhaps as Airbnb âdiscoversâ new opportunities, with far better âeconomies of scaleâ, such as multiple listings for example, and dealing with less high maintenance individuals versus business people (in a relative sense), perhaps they will find that model to be a lot more profitable. As they do so however, they have to and are confronting new more powerful lobbies, who are understandably protecting their self-interest.
Unlike you, I donât automatically see the ânoblenessâ of every local government, for I have found them eventually mostly to be just as greedy and politically/economically motivated as every other institution in life, and usually in bed with the local established hotel industry and Airbnb is indeed that industryâs Public Enemy #1. At least where I did business, in the US.
Yes, things are in transition, how things shake out, who the heck knows. Personally, if I was them I would never desert what got me there, the above is just offered as a guess as to what they are presently thinking.
Meantime, back at the ranch, I leave for Guatemala tomorrow, and buying my long-awaited âyachtâ (ok, is not like some luxurious thing), and will start a new business with it (exploratory cruises) and wondering how I can get Airbnb to help me market bookings for it. It is not like they donât know already my offerings are a bit âdifferentâ. "
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In summary : You donât care what they say but what they do. So, seems to me youâre agreeing that they are sending mixed signals, even if youâre choosing to ignore some of it. In fact most of what you said repeated_ what I said⌠that Airbnb had changed, and that they were saying they were all about home sharing because it suited them to do so.
If you show me where I laud government action Iâd be pleased; I thought I made objective statements.
Keep in mind your basic premise is: âits no longer about home sharing but they continue to pretend it isâ . An absolute thoughtâŚ
They may now be more than just one thing. Of course, they are sending many signals, as they address different economic segments, and use different language depending who they are talking to, so what? Are they compelled to use just one message at all times, regardless who they are talking to? The upshot is: It is not up to them to make sure we understand what is going on, the responsibility lies with us, because it concerns our own welfare.
Here is a great site for you to get supplies.
http://www.nostalgicimpressions.com/Classic_Writing_Instruments_s/155.htm
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@KKC âŚooo, that was a fun trip to the past to browse through the supplies relating to calligraphy such as sealing wax and dip pens. I had a side business as a calligrapher and did diplomas and award certificates, wedding announcements and invites by the thousands, etc., for years until I got burnt outâŚeven taught a couple of adult evening classes.
I still do calligraphy when writing checks and thank-you notes (and when I want to impress - ha!) but those were the days when I was really into the whole thing and spent hundreds in supplies.
Thanks for the nostalgia trip.
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Hi @SandyToes,
Whatâs it like to be a burnt out calligrapher? (Thatâs not a sentence I ever imagined writing.) Just curious.
The only person I can think of who was (probably still is) into calligraphy is a crazy uncle. No reflection intended on calligraphers, of course.
PS. Once upon a time, in my early teens, I used to be really into fancy pens and pencils. Itâs funny to remember.
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BasketâŚ
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@faheem Pardon the delay but your comments tended to set me to chuckling and then I had to take a breather and start afreshâŚseveral times.
For me, getting burnt out was because of the deadlines and doing endless names rather than creative âartâ pieces. The saddest job that depressed me for a long time was doing certificates to about 800 families of Vietnam casualties. It was for a veteranâs group and I ended up doing it gratis but it took a toll.
âŚyour âcrazy uncleâ (ha!)âŚa perfect note on which to end.
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Wow! That must be the latest??? LOL!!!
You say bucket, I say basket⌠Letâs call the whole thing off! 
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