.“A good one”…Words fail me 
It’s a figure of speech in the US in this context. It means the opposite of a “good one.” Or at least I think it does.
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x2. Thats the reason I don’t disclose any firearms on my properties. If the firearm is properly secured, then the guest doesn’t need to know and will never know. If there’s an 800kg safe in the corner guests aren’t going to know whats in there and they don’t need to know whats in there. Telling them whats in there would only make things worse.
One of my neighbors has a 168 sq meter arms room behind a vault door in his home. Its larger than most people’s homes around here. As you can imagine, there was at one time an enormous collection of firearms in there but it was all sold off when my neighbor bought the property. I think the vault door says it all though where safety is concerned.
Like the whole camera thing, I think the gun thing is up the same alley. Its meant as a catch-all for those special individuals who would rent out their whole home but leave unsecured firearms on the top of a shelf in the back of a closet. Its not meant for hosts who lock up firearms. Airbnb just has to have their policy because of the outlier hosts and guests.
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What if, in a case similar to that of MattAZ, if a firearm is stolen by a guest, Airbnb learns of it and the host hadn’t disclosed “weapons on property”. I imagine they boot the host off the platform and cut all communication.
Yes—also means unbelievable in a negative or bad way.
Eg. The story the teenager told was a good one. (Biggest, stupid lie ever told)
Please show me where the Second Amendment says that. What it says is that if you’re in an orderly militia you can own weapons, and that amendment was written to get Southern slave owning states to approve the Bill of Rights, because they were paranoid about a revolt of armed slaves. Anybody that thinks that an AR-15 is defense against real military with real military weapons has some kind of goofy vigilante complex. And I have disclosed my .22 rifle, my 30.06 rifle, and my shotgun, securely stored in my part of the house, in my listing. I have been shooting and hunting since I was 6 years old. All this paranoia and lies about a “government takeover” is from a loony rightwing group that would go ballistic if every black male in the US bought a gun.
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I have worked at two places (in the USA) where the threat of armed robbery has been an issue. Well, enough of an issue for a gun to be on the premises. In both cases, the guns were kept in the safe. I thought this was a bit strange (‘hang on a minute please, armed robber, while I get the gun out of the safe’) but evidently it was at the insistence of the insurance company.
That’s one reason why I’m waiting for the OP to answer the question he’s been asked a few times but has not let us know, which is, what about the company who provide his STR insurance? Do they cover firearms? If so, do they cover firearms that are not in the safe?
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Could be. That seems to be the intention communicated by Airbnb. Personally, I think that ultimately I am responsible for the safety of everyone in my home. Following the rules of Airbnb seems to be a bad idea in this situation because of what happened in this thread. Airbnb will probably change their policy eventually but I always do what’s safe and makes the most sense regardless.
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So is today the day that this thread is resolved with an “April Fools!” post?
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Bit late for that. Oh wait, you lot are a wee bit behind us cosmopolitan europeany types 
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Every day is April Fools day in the uk right now, I’m afraid.
We’ve even lost our sense of humour.
Food/comedy parcels still gratefully received, though.
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Without really wanting to mention the “B” word in relation to the U.K., on the basis a lot of European goods are likely to rise in price, both my daughters who are studying in the U.K. have suggested that we send them food parcels post split. I actually believe them to be serious!
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I wouldn’t want to disclose firearms either.
Even their wording is confusing: “On the property”. Guests have a private suite in my home; we only share the yard. When they’re talking about animals “on the property” I did disclose the cat and dog I had at the time because it’s likely guests would see them in the yard or deal with allergens through our shared air system. They could potentially run across something during their stay that caused discomfort, so that should be disclosed.
But with firearms? A hunting rifle isn’t going to walk itself into the yard. As in OP’s situation, someone would need to break into my private space (felony) and then break into the safe the firearm was stored in (another felony). In that way, it’s more akin to breaking into a neighbor’s apartment or house. Surely a host of an apartment isn’t disclosing guns held by a neighbor in a separate unit any more than I disclose my neighbor’s pets.
I agree with your interpretation that it’s meant to control those less-than-vigilant people who don’t secure the revolver or shotgun stored in the back of the closet. If a guest could stumble upon a firearm, or even the lockbox/safe for the gun, I think it should be disclosed.
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We have different perceptions of Airbnb’s job. I see theirs as the money-handling middle man between the guest and myself.
Airbnb will never “guarantee” a guest isn’t a thief any more than Tinder will guarantee your hookup doesn’t have herpes. To hold them to this standard is, frankly, naive.
To illustrate: I have a max of 4 guests allowed in my place. Even if Air does a thorough background check on the booking guest, they’re bringing 3 absolutely unvetted people. These are variables you’re not going to control until we get a Chinese-style social acceptability score that limits the travel of “undesirables”*. I’d prefer to take my chances on the decency of most humans than join that system.
*I can’t help but think that recidivism wouldn’t be so high if felons who paid their debt to society weren’t shunned when they make a good-faith effort to rejoin it.
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I’m behind you 100% on that. Thats why I think we need better privacy laws. Background checks are counter-productive and just cause complacency. Of course as individuals, we want to know as much as we can if possible. If everyone is on level ground though, that would be fair.
Pretty much. I get why Airbnb has the rule about the disclosure though; because we the people of Airbnb (with the loudest voices) demand it. I’ll try and not get too political because that won’t help.
Don’t you think the rule is most likely related to their insurance company?
I don’t know much about insurance KKC.
Speaking of insurance, I have a friend who lost everything in the Bastrop TX fire a few years ago. He was out of town that weekend so didn’t even have a chance to throw a load of valuables in a vehicle and flee. He had a number of collectibles including an extensive collection of firearms, coins (both bullion and numismatic) and his parent’s lifelong art collection. Just a month before the fire he was here in town and we were talking about the value of the art. He said he didn’t know it’s worth, and I asked, well didn’t the insurance company require an appraisal? He said it wasn’t insured. I asked about the guns…nope, no insurance. He doesn’t want the insurance company to know he has them. Well tin-foils hats don’t protect from acts of God apparently.
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Hello, wondering how your small claims cases went. We just hosted a woman who was in an AirBnB after the reservation was terminated by her previous host. She squatted in his home for 3 more months before he could evict her, then moved on to our home. This previous host reported all of this to AirBnB, but they let her keep her account and rent again. That host hired a PI who found me, and he contacted me to warn me of this guest, and I was able to get her out in just over a week. However, damaged was done to my property. AirBnB is giving us a hard time about the damage, but this is due to negligence on their part that she was able to rent again. I’m hoping they cooperate with us, but am taking preemptive steps because I don’t have much faith in this company. Any advice would be appreciated!
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Wow! That host really saved your bacon! Kudos to them!
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