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Oh Glad… that is so much nicer than I would have been. They are rude and disrespectful to put you in such a cringey position as having to write that.
I would have been on the phone to Air to ask them to cancel for you and ask them to leave. You never have to EVER host a guest that you don’t want to host.
K is right. You have to leave an honest review for mr and Mrs Gray. Honestly, guests are so ridiculous. Were they raised in a barn?
I am disheartened by the posts here that recommend not giving the benefit of the doubt to the guests.
We are upset if guests leave us a negative review without giving us the opportunity to fix the problem. Yet posters here are recommending that the original poster give the guests a negative review regardless of whether they heed the request to be quieter.
On another thread a host posted about guests who were upset about lawn mowing, toddler noise and music being played outdoors. All of these noises are louder than a couple having sex. However, many posters were outraged that the guests complained about the noise, but are outraged here that the host should have been subjected to noise.
I’m grateful for each of your perspectives, we’re all different which is what makes Airbnb unique. I’m the type of person who, a bit like Ellen, would like to give the guest the benefit of the doubt in the first instance so it was with that in mind that I composed my reply.
I’d like to point out that it’s not the noise or even the love making sounds (I’ve put up with several of those with my 100+ groups through!) but the S&M aspect which for some reason, deeply disturbs me. And it they’re not here for just a few nights but 8!
All good though, I had a fairly prompt reply from guest saying “Oh! I am so sorry… and feel a bit sheepish. Please accept our apologies for being so self centered. Usually not so inconsiderate. I guess we feel very at home - no excuse, just an explanation…
We’ll behave now. Also new towels would be lovely.”
I so agree that often there is a striking mis-match between host & guest expectations about what is “normal”. Also, the discrepancy between crying 'we’re not hotels!" and in the next post saying “well, you wouldn’t get that in a hotel” etc etc,.
But in this particular situation - come on, it’s not 1967 and the host isn’t running a free love commune. It IS rude and disrespectful to impose your noise on other people. Plus people who get off on others listening to them having sex - they piss me off big time. Seriously, don’t do that. It’s selfish and borderline sexual harrassment. If any of my guests ever behave like that - I will put a full-on sound system outside their door blasting “You’re So Vain” followed by “Who Put the Dogs Out”.
The original poster stated that she didn’t mind the sounds of sex, but was disturbed by kinky sex. I find her views to be unreasonable and judgemental.
As the guests apologized profusely; I don’t understand why you believe that they were purposely inflicting the noise of their activity on their guests.
That’s EXACTLY what I was thinking. It appears that these clueless people had no f’n idea about how sound travels. At least they are contrite, promise to do better and realize they were being “self centered.”
Oh, I must have missed that bit of the thread. People having noisy sex (kinky or otherwise) is a bit like farting very loudly in your presence. You know, like lifting your leg up and just trumpeting right there in your face. It’s all perfectly natural and who doesn’t enjoy a good shag and a satisfying fart? It just seems commonly accepted that these activities are not polite to share with people you don’t know. Unless you’re an exhibitionist. In which case, again I say - borderline aggressive. I don’t care what people do sexually. Most of us don’t, I would guess. It’s not about that. It’s about the noise. Hang yourself upside down in a sling and spank each other to death for all I care - just do it quietly. Or book a place that’s appropriate. And if you do it noisily because you want me to hear? Well, that’s selfish and disrespectful. Don’t impose your sexual proclivities on other people - as said, borderline sexual harrassment.
EllenN ‘her’ is me, Glad and it’s not up for negotiation as to why, it’s my home and people have to respect that. I was neither being unreasonable nor judgmental and I don’t have to defend my feelings.
The baker in Colorado who refused to bake a wedding cake for a same sex couple is also saying that he’s not judgemental. He’s wrong and the people here who believe that guests practicing S&M should be subject to different rules than guests whose sexual practices don’t involve S&M are wrong.
I’m reading your thread laughing just a little bit. It was my fear to host guests like this! (loud sex havers) as our neighbours are practically window to window. My husband rolled his eyes and said like that would ever happen!
If it makes you uncomfortable, then you don’t need to justify that to anybody. It’s your home you’ve invited them in to, and it’s very rude to go into somebody’s home and carry on with your habits that are likely to be annoying . You also go into an airbnb a little more respectfully than you would a hotel if you ask me.
I am hosting 3 guests and a baby at the moment, the baby has cried for an hour so far. That doesn’t bother me in the slightest, because that’s what babies do. I get a lot of guests with babies because I have all the baby things, it seems to be my niche market. But if I was kept up all night with wailing sex noise it would be a totally different story! I’ve seen airbnb listings where this behaviour would be accepted, they need to find the hosts who would be down with this, not just turn up and go about their usual (obnoxious) business. Rude!