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WHY do people like getting high in my non-smoking house??? I was upset today, but mostly, I’m posting because that ZEP Smoke Odor Eliminator really works!!
I will go back tomorrow to make sure I didn’t just acclimate to the eau de . I thought for sure I’d need to run the ozone machine but so far it seems not.
I cannot figure folks out. They clearly made an effort to follow the other house rules and checkout instructions…EXCEPT they had the family room and a couple of my throws all smelling like 420 .
It’s too bad because otherwise they wouldhave been very good guests. Now I will not host them again & review what they did. There are 4 other profiles linked to the reservation so they will all take the hit (pun intended ).
On that note, it was seemingly so easy to get rid of the smell that it calmed my temper quickly and had me rethinking clicking “would not host again”. Ultimately, I will click it as that’s the biggest NO-NO rule break for me and it’s so blatant. But what gives? Anyone else increasingly getting this?
At least it was SXSW weekend so I got paid nicely for my extra aggravation, not that this excuses them, of course.
It’s almost all good; because did I mention my place is “no smoking”?!
I’m not sure why they think weed doesn’t count or maybe they just don’t care (which is why all the other rule following effort bewilders me)?
I’ve had plenty of cigarette smokers stay and they go away from the house, outside. No problem. But the other smokers are taking liberties and I’m none too appreciative.
I don’t know whether they just don’t care or think no smoking only pertains to cigarettes. I certainly wasn’t excusing the behavior.
But I’ve known a lot of chronic pot smokers, and I don’t think they really even think about it- they smoke at home and at their friends’ places, and now that it’s legal in so many places, and they can fire up a doobie in public, maybe they just assume it’s acceptable?
In any case, you’re going to have to make it clear that no smoking means no smoking anything, if you don’t already.
And are you sure they were smoking, not vaping? If you don’t want guests to vape indoors, you have to say that, because vaping isn’t smoking.
We’ve had some heated threads here with a back and forth about the smell or lack of smell of cigarettes vs weed vs vaping. There are some people who insists vaping smells, others insist it doesn’t. There is also a belief that weed smell doesn’t linger like cigarettes. So maybe these weed smokers think you won’t be able to tell.
In any case I’ve seen lots of people make explicit statements, especially in weed legal states, about no smoking of cannabis on their property. You aren’t facing a unique problem.
I am in that camp, it does not linger and stay on fabrics like tobacco does. Open the windows for a couple of hours should clear the air.
However I do not want people smoking indoors due to the damage that could be caused by a hot ash/ember
All that said, once I made a mistake and thought my guests had checked out on Sunday morning, I went into the cabin and was like oh no there stuff is still here… As I am backing out I saw a pot pipe and bag of weed on the table. When they checked out the next day there was no evidence of smoking (they may have taken it outside to smoke)
I agree with @aelilya that it should be mentioned in the review that there was evidence of smoking indoors, and to add a bit of pettiness I would not mention what they smoked because more hosts would decline them for cigs than pot I am guessing!
I don’t feel the need to put them on blast, just inform hosts, and advise guest on how to improve. I didn’t even charge them when I could have per my rules/policies they agreed to.
So, review wording & star thoughts?
Facts - not all to go in review or even influence it…it’s just fyi so no need to call out anything you’d exclude/find irrelevant:
good comm before arrival & booked accurately - except didn’t name 6th guest. I assumed maybe wasn’t sure who it would be yet & didn’t care enough to ask.
didn’t confirm checkin or house condition upon arrival, as requested. This makes me squirm but I send a checkin & house condition msg as my CYA.
checked out on time
towels and floors were especially filthy (extra cleaning required); treated like a hotel stay was the feel. This is a 0 review, new account guest, fyi.
Followed checkout procedure (95%, A)
Smoked in the house, explicitly disallowed in house rules, and at least one throw is requiring multiple launderings
You have to be careful about publicly accusing guests of things you don’t have proof of. Simply finding a roach, and that the place smelled like weed isn’t hard evidence of that- they could have rolled it up inside and smoked it outside.
That probably isn’t the case, but guests could claim it is.
One of my daughters was pulled aside every time she flew, for many years, because she was red-flagged way back when she was 19, coming back from 4 months in Nepal, for having the “odor of marijuana” on her. Of course she wasn’t carrying any, but she was 19 and it never occurred to her to wash her backpack and all her clothes.
I Know, Right??? Why do they smoke in my non-smoking house/property???
Stop sniffing the pillows, you’re getting goofy.
They just are clueless. And high.
This. I had to add vaping and pot to the “no smoking” section of my HR because “that’s not smoking, man.” Oy.
Yeah, disagree. Smoke, inhale, exhale, smells.
Yup, had to spell that one out, too…
Ha!! Old Hungarian professor with the large bag of weed and closing for 2 weeks… reeeked!
I’d do 3 or 4 stars overall, would not host again. “Guest repeatedly broke No Smoking requirement and spotty communication during stay. Left the place extremely dirty and didn’t clean up after themselves. Would not host again.”
I had a friend who smoked and she and her wife were staying in my Airbnb in the days before they had kids. She’d smoke in the driveway, well away from the house but there was a smell in the room after they stayed. I can’t describe what it was, it wasn’t like old smoke on clothes, it’s was different and worse. And after she quit there was no longer that smell. Not all the smokers here have left that scent so I’m guessing it was some odd reaction between her body chemistry and the cigarettes.
You can’t prove an odor, that’s true, but you can say the place smelled of smoke, marijuana, whatever. It smelled like that to you, that’s a fact. What isn’t a fact, necessarily, is that they smoked indoors.
If a guest leaves full ashtrays inside (okay, you wouldn’t leave ashtrays, they’d use a saucer or something) , ashes or cig butts on the floor, and you photograph that, it could reasonably be proof of indoor smoking. Or if the unit is attached to the host’s home and the host can distinctly smell smoke wafting through the heating system, the host could say that.
I’m just thinking about how guests can ask for a review to be removed and that a CS rep would agree that there’s no proof of an accusation.
Because I’m a glutton for punishment , here’s how it went - have at it.
BTW, other hosts will book her/them even w/ the smoking issue. I’ve learned that. So my approach is to try to create a better future guest for others (so I purposely tried to not be disagreeable in the private note so she’ll listen to me), while giving hosts a heads up.
Private Note:
guest name here - I appreciate that you all made an effort to follow most of the house rules and checkout procedures and that you checked out on time. Thank you. I don’t know if the smoking was indoors or outdoors near open doors/windows, but the family room smelled bad and the brown throw was really bad also. Many hosts would have charged you extra cleaning or damage fees for this. Fortunately, we don’t do back-to-back bookings since Covid but if we did it could have cost us a booking because it takes time to get that odor out of the house and contents. Please consider this next time y’all stay at any AirBnb.
Public Note:
We found the family room smelling strongly of smoke & a throw that required multiple launderings to deodorize. Thankfully, other house rules were followed, as well as checkout procedures & we didn’t have back-to-back bookings. This group has the potential to be good guests, but if you are a non-smoking or outdoor only smoking (no odor detectable indoors) listing, you will want to consider this.
Score will round to a 4 overall (you know how Air does their guest star math…). Marked “Would not host again” not because I would not (waffled on this) with a stern warning, but I think a trespass like this should mean no IB privileges. Took one for the team
PS> This is the part where I feel bad and y’all fuss me for it…because of course they left me a great review. But we each earned what we got.
I’ve got to get some thicker skin. I feel @casailinglady giving me the look already …And in my head, I already heard you responding,“Damn right, I am!”
. I thought for sure I’d need to run the ozone machine but so far it seems not.
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, here’s how it went - have at it.
…And in my head, I already heard you responding,“Damn right, I am!”