You can still read locked posts so that relevant information is available.
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I think that idea/concept of locking old posts in case anyone is annoyed is annoying.
in my opinion, people are more annoyed that the same questions are repeated and would prefer someone to try to find out the answer to their question before posting the same question and getting the same responses that have been made earlier. my post added to the discussion…
the process/concept appears to be that someone might be annoyed, so in order to stop theose who might be annoyed, being annoyed, the post is locked. why not wait until someone is actually and genuinely annoyed and says so before taking action?
I am annoyed that you locked and ended a perfectly useful thread, what about protecting my ‘feelings’, or dont i matter?
i didnt recall see anyone react to my post saying, ‘I am so annoyed that someone made this post active again’
In fact i am so annoyed that my gabber is flasted and i am going for a lie down… in reality what difference has it made? my post can still be seen, the other posts can still be read …and all that has happened is that you have created the annoyance you thought you were preventing even though no-one had said they were annoyed (though no doubt a few will be along soon to say how they annoyed they were about my post).
i hope you do your best to make sure i am not annoyed by their posts if it happens.
there is another term, not just in the online community but in the real world, - its called ‘woke’ - perhaps those interested might look that up? - i am sure it gets far more hits more use and causes more annoyance than necroing ever will do!
PS - i did look up necroing –
the first google entry gives this definition
It means bringing up a dead thread (usually a month or more since the last post) without providing anything meaningful to add to it. It is frowned upon and considered very annoying.25 Oct 2017
i would point you to the part where it says WITHOUT PROVIDING ANYTHING MEANINGFUL TO ADD TO IT … i think my post added something meaningful to the discussion …hardly necroing then was it?
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For each person who is annoyed by something on this forum there is someone who is annoyed by the opposite. We aren’t going to please everyone. Nevertheless, closing old threads is common on online forums. That’s why there is a tool to do so automatically built into the software. It has seemed to me that the consensus of members here was that they preferred that old threads be closed but I don’t have a dog in this show.
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it am surprised that there is consensus is that old threads should be closed - but of course i would be more than willing to be corrected when you can show me how or where that consensus was determined?
it seems to me that someone suggesting that a consensus has been reached should be able to actually show how or where and when that consensus was reached by the majority of members, thats by the actual majority of members not just those who make the majority of posts. otherwise its just their opinion and has no more validity than someone elses opinion. even if they try to dress it up in the emperors clothes …
if no actual consensus has ever been reached by all the members, then your comment could even be considered as online bullying by pretending that it has been, but of course i dont think you would do that and i am more than happy to be shown where that consensus has been reached.
i would also ask that if there is a tool to close threads automatically, why was the thread closed manually. if the criteria for closing it hadnt been reached then it shouldnt have been closed, it should have been left until such time as that criteria within the forum process and rules had been met.
if it can be pointed out in the forum guidelnes/rules that it states old posts will be locked and gives a clear guidance on when something becomes ‘old’enough’ to be locked, then it becomes a rule but still doesnt become a consensus of the majority of members. and until it reaches or meets the criteria it should not be closed.
and ‘apparently’, a person doesnt actually need a dog to go dogging …
but back to your first comment re someone being annoyed by an ‘opposite’ - there was no indication that anyone was actually annoyed at me making a post on an old thread at the time, it was just that someone thought that someone might be annoyed - though i suspect there may be some waiting in the wings to say they were annoyed or know someone who might be annoyed but didnt want to show their annoyance but now they are really annoyed!
I dont get annoyed when someone has an opposite view/opinion to mine, its natural for people to have opposing views and opinion and in fact very healthy for society, i do however get annoyed when people pontificate.
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What a rude comment to make in my opinion !
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Did you join this forum to exchange information, give and receive help, or to criticize the way it is run and chastize other posters for their comments?
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@KKC has just opened a poll on this very subject in order to get a current consensus.
See here: Poll: Closing posts/necroing posts - #9 by HostAirbnbVRBO
Isn’t it legitimate – and something we really want – for a member to make suggestions on how they perceive things could be managed more effectively? @KKC to her credit has opened a poll on just this subject. The comments there as well as KKC’s prior comments show that it is a little more complicated than it first appears. Both @Adria and KKC have acted in an exemplary way here.
@Adria’s comments or criticisms are consistent with and reminders of forum guidelines to be civil, no name calling, no ad hominem attacks, being respectful. In that Adria was pretty brave and serves the community well especially when the poster who made the uncivil comments is so well respected, such a strong contributor to the community and for whom a rude comment is the exception not the rule.
In an ideal world that would be great.
The problem I have right now is that you repeat these same things over and over. People may read it once, and disagree or agree but it is a huge turn off to see this on half your posts.
I’m not religious, but have to say it reminds me a little of preachers trying to push things at people by repetition.
People are going to stop reading anything you write because it’s so repetitious and above it all.
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Well, by signing up for this forum we all implicitly agreed to this. It’s not something that any of us have a right to disagree with UNLESS we member want to change the guidelines. Do we want to say something like “While generally you should be civil, not name call and be respectful, now and then it’s OK to blow off some steam and go after a poster you don’t like?”
I agree that it’s repetitious. It’s repeated because apparently some folks need to be reminded repeatedly. It seems to me that either we have a code of conduct we all agree to (and we DO have one, as copied above) or we don’t. Or we want to change it. If we want to change it let’s do it. If not, let’s hold each other accountable for it.
Maybe it’s not effective to remind members of the forum guidelines that we all signed up for. Do you have another suggestion to hold each other accountable, to keep this forum civil, to prevent or reduce the bullying?
I’ve been thinking about this. I think that some here enjoy the ‘gladiator’ potential of an online forum. In college we did ‘off topic’ debating, where heckling was allowed, encouraged. Some heckles drew groans, guffaws or great laughs. Like in Parliament. We could permit that, even encourage it, but then we shouldn’t throw out members who engage in it.
I probably wouldn’t do well in that environment, at least at the start. I’m not as practiced as some here in being mean-spirited and full of invective. But if we like that spectacle or tolerate it, let’s say so, and let the games begin! It could be fun, or just mean.
It’s not a sin to say that’s OK. Let’s just amend the rules to permit it, or even encourage it. It’s our forum. Let’s make it what we want it to be.
20…20… 20…20…,20… oops another duplicate 
The only people the moderators are accountable to are the owners who pay the bills . Not to you, not to me or any of the other members here. @Adria
It appears incredibly arrogant to demand they justify their decisions to you personally.
If you want to control how an STR forum works why not start one up?
I, and I know other regulars here are grateful for the time and effort the mods put into this forum on a daily basis to keep things running smoothly.
Not all forums work for everyone. If this one doesn’t work for you then choose some that do.
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I fail to understand why so many supposed adults these days seem to think their “feelings” should matter to complete strangers. It’s one thing for someone to pointedly go out of their way to hurt someone, but this oversensitivity regarding one’s hurt feelings seems rather immature to me.
Other people are not responsible for how we feel. You can choose to allow something to hurt your feelings, or you can ignore it.
And why people seem to choose to take everything so personally is puzzling.
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I’m going to adopt a different tone since I’m said to be repetitious and taking a tone above it all.
So here goes.
Look, it’s like this. We’re all accountable to each other. It’s called “community accountability”. Look it up.
As for saying that Adria’s 1) arrogant and 2) ‘demanding’ that the moderators 3) ‘justify’ their decision to Adria 4) personally, did you just make that up from FinnAir? There are no demands, just expressions of opinions raising questions in a public forum. No desire for control, no lack of gratitude for the moderators. Your shut-up-or-you-can-leave attitude is not a fair or the only response. Members of a community can collaborate.
Adria’s making a contribution beyond “Duplication” . . . “Duplication” . . . “20 20 20” and Winnie the Pooh. [I jest here in the spirit of the ‘anti-civil’ movement within the group. Of course you make many valuable contributions when not criticizing others and yourself making judgments and mis-statements of facts.]
I do find it amusing when people quote a comment and take care to take it out of context, but in doing so they just support the context of the full post, how amusingly unfortunate, I hope you dont find it too annoying that I am amused.
i love the passive aggressive theme of your comment, in particular the way you defend the honour and integrity of the moderators when it was never under any threat and then throw in compliments just to show how close they are to your heart, its very heartwarming to see.
One point that did confuse me though is your reference to I and I.
Ras Tafarins would tell you, God is within all men (and of course women) and we are all united under the love of Jah, i like to think along similar lines and think your faith in the sanctity of all moderators of all forums is also exemplary or do you just have fat fingers?
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now that IS funny and sad at the same time, i wonder if anyone recognises themselves, i do hope so …
popcorn anyone?
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This post has really gone down the tubes, even by this forum’s usual low standards.
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