I just had this conversation with a good friend.
She had Covid in early February. Natural antibodies should protect her to July. She’s going to wait for 3-4 months like you for a couple reasons. The main one is 90 days seems to be the most suggested wait.
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Wow, thank you so much for this! I have been going over this in my mind and never even thought to calculated the way you did.
This was super super helpful. Thank you so much.
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If it’s cheap or not depends on the location doncha think ?
I agree that 127 is cheap, regardless of the location in the US. (Which, as @JJD says is in the OPs profile).
With two bedrooms the house could sleep four people if both bedrooms have a queen (or king) bed. That makes the nightly price per person just over thirty dollars a night. That is cheap indeed.
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We have hosted travel nurses. One of them was with us for three months in late 2019/early 2020—right up to the pandemic, in fact.
We did that (not through Airbnb, but with a lease) because our winter months are usually slower. We gave a substantial discount, since we knew we wouldn’t be booked anywhere near as much as we are in other seasons. And having a nurse with us for three months was less work for us than if we’d had daily or weekly turnovers.
The nurses who’ve stayed here have been quiet and very responsible. They work long hours and sleep a lot. They want a quiet place to sleep (and often want a room that can be darkened, if they have to sleep in the daytime).
We would perhaps do that again in the winter with one of our rooms, but not in other seasons, when we have the opportunity to make more money through Airbnb.
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We have absolutely adored all of our travel nurse guests!! But yours doesn’t sound like the ones we’ve hosted.
I was given a big warning by my mother, who has been a community health nurse for her entire life:
“DO NOT provide discounts to travel nurses. They make incredible money and have generous stipends for housing. Am I clear?? Don’t offer discounts, they are totally fine - give them ear plugs for when they are coming off the night shift and a bottle of wine but no discounts.”
We took that to heart and never had an issue at all, as our nurses were happy to have the amenities of a real home instead of a hotel.
What concerns me about your potential guest is that they’re immediately asking for a discount (why would you be interested in a place outside of your budget…? When I’m looking for a STR I don’t message the $$$ ones, I just shoot for the $$ spot that will work for me) and that there “may be” an extra person + dog. Reading between the lines, this sounds like she hasn’t planned ahead, and she doesn’t know how long they could be staying. Not to mention the costs of an additional person and a pet.
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And what are they planning to do with the 2 large dogs while they are at work?
The nurses I know work quite long shifts.
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I find it hard to understand why anyone would even have dogs if they intended to crate them for 15 hours a day and thought that was okay.
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All of the nurses I have communicated with want a huge discount, They all say they can’t pay more than 1300 a month which is BS. It says in my listing I don’t give discounts so please don’t ask. I think people that want discounts could end up being complainers, this business is hard enough and my prices are fair, just go somewhere else please
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She may very well have to work 12 hour shifts, not a choice. My nurse friends do, they don’t just get to pick and choose the number of hours in a shift. Those things are negotiated by their unions.
Personally, I think 12 hour shifts for nurses are crazy. How can you be alert enough when you’ve been on the job for 11 hours (and they have a hard job) to safely administer medication or correctly fill out paperwork without any errors? Seems like a lot to expect.
The only nurses I know who get that kind of money are Covid19 and describe their work as entering a war zone.
Also perdeims are based on market and the food is usually for work days only.
The work is exhausting & emotionally draining; 12-18 hour shifts, 3-6 days a week.
Depending on PPE, wearing hot masks & isolation gowns or complete isolation suits. That means many wear adult diapers because going to the bathroom is difficult. Plus meals are difficult too
The job leaves them exhausted, and is potentially life endangering (vaccine doesn’t provide protect for all variants).
They have the weight of someone’s life on their shoulders. If they make a mistake, it could be deadly.
Contract RNs usually have no benefits (no: health insurance, dental, vacation, retirement (sometimes a 401k yes))
There is no guarantee of a future assignment.
At least 2 hours away from home, usually much further.
The job requires a minimum of. 3 year ADN or 4 year BSN (I should finish my tuition loans by the time I retire).
Also as Covid vaccinations increase, the need for the Covid RNs will decrease. This pay rate won’t continue. Currently medical staff are beyond burnout.
If the RN has the stamina to do 9 of 12 months and the pay stays high that is less than $117,000.
A traditional worker with a base pay of $80,000 plus benefits actually earns more.
I don’t have the physical stamina to do the 12-16 hour shifts any more plus I haven’t been bedside in many years. The medical staff especially riding out this last wave are worth more than gold.
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Traveler RNs will often partner with others to provide pet care or put pets in doggie daycare.
The standard schedule is 12 work hours but add on a 30 minute meal beak so onsite 12.5 hours. Shifts can go up to 18 hours.
The long shifts is one of the reasons older nurses are moving away from bedside, a3 day work week is nice though.
One of my best and oldest friends has been an ICU nurse in the same hospital for 30+ years. She works 12 hour shifts, weekends only, nights. Occasionally she takes another midweek shift for someone. It suits her very well but obviously it’s not for everyone.
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It’s just another case of people thinking they deserve discounts because of whatever. A whatever that isn’t a host’s affair- book a place you can afford, not find one you really like and then try to chisel the host down.
Whether it’s Can I have a discount because I’m a nurse, a student, miltary, lost my job because of COVID, it’s all in the realm of entitlement and the attitude that one’s financial situation should be catered to by a complete stranger.
Can’t afford an entire place? Gee, then maybe you’ll have to limit yourself to private room listings. That’s life.
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@JJD Thank you for sharing this.
@Barley Thank you for sharing and validating exactly what I thought.
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@jjd - I totally understand your position. I knew if I gave her a discount I personally would feel resentful.
In fact my monthly discount rate on my Airbnb site is only 5% if it’s weekly and 10% if it’s monthly.
I’m so glad I posted this topic and am super grateful for everyone’s input.
Shameless entitlement.
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Surely you don’t think I tapped the wrong reply button…which I did. I apologize for the angst
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I don’t get wrapped up in what they make. Don’t give them a discount.
No it isn’t. I’ve been beaten in another thread because some people just always ask. If you don’t ask, you won’t get…maybe they are just asking because they were advised to…
Btw they are worth their weight in gold. I challenge anyone including me to do the work. I could do it 6 hrs a day at best
If you’ve never been in a hospital it is hard to realize the value of the RNs, therapists, phlebotomists, patient care services aids, dietary etc. it takes a team. I personally think a patient care aid is one of the most valuable.