I always told my son “if you don’t ask, you won’t get”. Some hosts think every discount-seeker is going to be a jerk. I don’t agree - a polite request for a reasonable discount is not a red flag for me.
But the ones that act like they are doing me a favor (“we want your house at 25% of your nightly rate. It will just sit empty otherwise, so you’ll at least get something”) can go stay elsewhere.
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