Foreign Nationals Traveling to the US Under Trump Regime

I think I’d visit USA on Thanksgiving just for taking pictures of roasted orange turd being on the menu at the White House… @Ritz3 enlightened my day with this idea :blush:

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tRUMP JUST ANNOUNCED THAT HE IS GOING TO TEAR UP EXISTING TRADE TREATIES WITH Canada and Mexico – source of about 50% of tourists to the USA – and impose 25% tariffs on EVERYTHING on Day One

  • Even if he doesn’t go through with these threats, Canadian and Mexican tourists are going to respond to the bully threats with a big “F*ck you, America!”

  • If he DOES go through with this the Canadian Dollar and Mexican peso will plunge, making visits to the USA (where expenses are in $us) unaffordable.

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Canada and Mexico should close their borders to US tourists.

On the other hand, while the US will lose tourists from Canada and Mexico, those countries will see increased tourism from US tourists as their dollar will go farther there.
That is, if they have any money left to travel, after all their prices go up due to Trump’s idiotic tarriffs and immigrant deportations.

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Chris, I think you are half correct. I think most people care very, very much which clown, or puppet or whatever you want to call the figure bearing the title of president of the US. is in office because all the news that those who own the media outlets see fit to print, whether on the so-called right or left/ red or blue sides, or whatever super-simplistic term you choose to give the controlled “dialogue” is the news that most people think is real news, and is all that they see. The real news will not be googled, because the internet has been scrubbed clean of real dissent, and what I consider to be truth, as have the print and tv outlets. So, I agree with your categorizing, but think the choice will increase the existing frothing division much further. And I also think that different policies are more easily pushed through depending on the color (red or blue) of the selected official. It seems to me that one of the biggest losers is always the environment and the natural world. Will it be even worse under Trump? The giant corporate world marches on, and gets its way, pretty much no matter what, no matter who. This is the real scarey thing.

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How would deporting undocumented migrants affect Airbnb hosts? I thought you need official identification such as a passport to be able to set up an Airbnb guest profile.

Types of IDs we accept

Depending on where you live, we accept the following types of IDs during verification:

  • National identity card
  • Drivers license
  • Passport
  • State identification card
  • Tribal Identification card
  • Residence permits

What makes you think undocumented migrants don’t have ID? For one thing, they can get a US driver’s license in 19 states. And they likely have ID from their home country- a drivers license, passport, national identity card, etc. Just because they aren’t legal immigrants to the US doesn’t mean they’re stateless people with no official ID.

You don’t have to have US ID to open an Airbnb account and book an Airbnb.

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thesentinel

How would deporting undocumented migrants affect Airbnb hosts? I thought you need official identification such as a passport to be able to set up an Airbnb guest profile.

Less demand:

  • Deporting millions of them would drive up wages and therefore fuel inflation, leaving American tourists with less disposable income for discretionary spending (like domestic vacations)

  • Deporting millions of people will inevitably create repeated images of (if Trump is true to his word) the American military rounding up families with crying children and crippled grandmothers and putting them into “temporary camps.” While these images are likely to elicit fist-pumps from Trump supporters, many, many tourists living in democracies outside the U.S. will find them unsettling, as this sort of thing is unthinkable in virtually every other democracy in the world. (The 50,000 tourists who visit the USA from Russia every year may just shrug, but a certain percentage of the other 70 million annual visitors would find the prospect of visiting the U.S.A. less appealing.)

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Yes, one other thing is that probably a lot of cleaners are undocumented migrants so the cost of services for some hosts will go up if they are no longer around to do the cleaning.

Having said that, I expect his efforts to expel over a million people will be about as successful as his efforts to build a wall last time round.

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Cleaning salaries will go up for some hosts, others will find there is NOBODY local willing (and capable) to do the work. The reason all the Haitians got work permits to move to Springfield Ohio is because one of the town’s major employers couldn’t find competent local workers

Really? The only hosts I’ve ever known who haven’t used ‘proper’ cleaners have been those who are flying under the radar anyway.

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Have you ever been to a vacation town? Almost all the cleaners are foreign nationals and some have questionable immigration status. Many hosts hire a cleaning company, not the cleaners themselves. If cleaning companies have to hire US citizens, be prepared for higher cleaning costs and lower cleaning standards.

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Yes. I live in one.

And as I said before, I know no hosts who employ people who don’t have the right to be working.

The Maga-ts that are so quick to find fault with someone who risked their lives to travel thousands of miles by foot to get a better life for their family, that will get up at 5am to stand outside at a Home Depot to get picked up to do manual labor for pennies, is sad. These folks need a helping hand, not a slap. As has been said before, if a manual laborer is ‘coming for your job’, then you need a better job.

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… but you’re in Australia.

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Well, that’s weird since I’ve been in South Florida for thirty years…

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That’s good. Not all hosts like you are in the business of running a STR and a cleaning business.

I’m not quite sure what you mean? Sorry.

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I clean my airbnb myself, but I also manage a small business in my area. We employ cleaning people and they are employed based on the quality of their work, not their nationality. We have found that new immigrants and refugees are far and away the best workers - compared to the local folks who think that work is beneath them and their work ethic is abysmal. We laugh when locals decry ‘undocumented’ folks as somehow ‘less than’…