The girls were getting changed in a room with a window that did not have the curtains closed. They could see the building across the lane through the uncovered window? They were surprised that someone could see them?
The person who saw them made a noise that indicated they were seen?
Install some sheer curtains for next guests !
Ask the girls why they were changing in front of an uncovered window?
Next time they should pay attention to their surroundings!
I donāt have an āargumentā. Iām not twisting words: what you said is there for all to see. I commented on your assertion that āthis guy was whistling to get their attentionā (which you stated as if it was a fact) and I said it was ridiculous to do so. I stand by that.
Apologies to the OP for derailing the thread with this petty squabble.
It sounds like you did the only sensible thing - send a professional apology and urge them to make sure the blinds are drawn when they are changing. As others have said, itās pretty obvious that you do that in an urban setting anyway so your guests were a bit clueless. How well do you know your neighbour? I would go and have a quiet word with him, if it were me.
Iām sorry, did I miss something in the story? What kind of crime did the guy commit, besides being an idiot? He could see them from his window, itās not like he came to hostās property and peeked through their window. Neither was he taking photos/videos, no? So although the guy did behave like a jerk, there is absolutely nothing legally enforceable against him in this situation. I mean, we could pretend that we live in a world in which there are no tacky, sleezy people whistling or ogling women. But we donāt. In the light of these facts, I donāt think it is victim blaming to say that girls should be using their common sense and pull on the curtains next time. I can understand it is unpleasant, but this kind of behaviour isnāt and shouldnāt be punishable by law. In the best case they should shame him by shouting at him and in general displaying that this behaviour is not acceptable. Thatās something we can all do as society.
Of course he whistled to get their attention! Whether he was catcalling the girls and whistling like a construction worker or not he, was trying to get their attention. I never meant he was politely trying to call attention to them. I always meant the cat call. My point was he was NOT trying to hide the fact that he could see them changing clothes.
OK, that makes sense now youāve put it like that and I get what you mean. See. this is what I meant about it being a highly charged subject. Peace?
Well I surely never meant it was whistle for a referee to call someone out of bounds. Maybe it got distorted that way when I mentioned āwarning.ā I still meant a catcall can be a warning is allā¦
Not where Iām from! A catcall is derisive/arrogantly appreciative and nothing else. But Iām suddenly recalling (possibly erroneously) that you are ex-military?
So that would give you a different take on what whistling means, right?
Or maybe Iāve watched too many TV shows! Honestly, the only decent thing for the neighbour to do would be to just stop looking and give the host a heads up that things were visible from that room.
Readā¦just read my friend and slow down. No one said catcalling is a respectable thing. I said catcalling was a warningā¦possibly in this situation.
To be honest, if the neighbor guy came later on then maybe he would have looked like a true perv by bringing attention to it after the fact. Think about itā¦he let himself be known and his presence right then and there! He wasnāt being sneaky about it!
Ok, I think weāll just have to agree to disagree about this. There is no reasonable explanation for me that a man would think it appropriate to whistle when he sees women changing clothes through a window. Fine, heās not a child-molester (rolleyes) but heās most definitely an ignorant prick.
People who think that a man using his eyes to look out of his own window is committing a crime are just totally hilarious . And calling someone a victim because theyāre being whistled at is also very hilarious. I understand that it isnāt pleasant and not really respectful from the whistler, but a victim ? Oh please come on, lets talk about the real problems in this world.
@travellinbug You handled it professionally. I donāt see anything else you could have done, and I donāt see any need to do anything else.
The argument was that the ignorant prick (or his guest) should not have the cops called on him for the ignorant women undressing in front of open windows. No one said catcalling was appropriate. Not sure who you are arguing with?
Wow, you have chutzpah telling women what they should think about men catcalling them.
In fact thinking it through a bit better, the only ones who probably came close to committing a crime were the girls: Itās called exhibitionismā¦ Maybe the neighbor should have called the cops .
And I consider it a sexist reflex to automatically say the man is at fault in this case .
Wow, you have chutzpah telling me what I should think about men catcalling women. How sexist of you !
Can we all just get along?
OK, you āwinā. Happy now?
F*** me, youāre a piece of work.
I did try. Maybe itās time to introduce an āignoreā feature?
Not till you bow down and say āCabinhost is the best, she is the greatest, I always respect her opinion.ā But you could never do that without throwing some smart ass comment inā¦or could you? I dare you?
I can guarantee that will never happen! You think Iām just a smart ass but Iām not. Sometimes I may agree with you, sometimes not.
And how very dare you to aspire to:
edit: damn, I just spent the last half hour watching snippets from this great show. Top Cat, my first and true love
I think Top Cat was a different cat in the US??? MY sis and I loved us some Top Cat.