Alert: Careful With New Amenities Options

@Notahost
Are you a host or not a host? Why do you feel the need to so argumentative? I mean really, is it that important to you to get the last word in and feel you are right about everything?

If you cannot contribute constructively maybe just skip over the stuff you disagree with.

Take the best and leave the rest.

RR

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@Notahost - like RR, I’m wondering what exactly you’re doing here as you are - if you’ve chosen your user name with any care at all - not a host.

I’m sure that, like all users, you have read the TOS and the FAQ. These two quotes spring to mind:

If you are not sure your post adds to the conversation, think over what you want to say and try again later.

And:

If you’re unsure, ask yourself how you would feel if your post was featured on the front page of the New York Times.

Thank you.

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Your entire post has nothing to do with this thread. It’s a rambling personal perspective and offers nothing to the discussion for hosts. Your complaint has nothing to do with hosts.

This forum is for hosts and it is not associated with Airbnb. Airbnb will not hear your cries here. Copy and paste your post into a feedback form for Airbnb or post it in the Airbnb Community Center (in other words, tell someone who not only can actually help you, but who actually asked for your opinion).

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@Notahost If Airbnb were to create filters for every possible thing a guest could come up with that was important to them, there would be hundreds of filters and it still couldn’t anticipate everything a fusspot like you might consider to be a deal breaker.

Yes, there are different standards and interpretations of things in different countries. What is called a double bed in Mexico varies in size from what is called a double bed in the US and what is called a double bed in Europe. If guests are going to travel internationally, it behooves them to do a little research themselves so they don’t expect everything to be just like home.

Shall I list every single type of insect, of which there are thousands to be found here in the tropics, in case a guest happens to be terrified of moths? Should there be a filter for “insect-free area”? No, guests shouldn’t travel to the tropics if they are insect-phobes, because the tropics teem with insects and guests should do some research before deciding to travel somewhere.

One thing I can tell you, no host would want a booking from someone as demanding as you appear to be.

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If @Notahost is not a host, why are they posting in this forum? Admins?

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I have the same question. Their very first post was a different tirade about what @Notahost thinks hosts should do to cater to them personally and how Airbnb should be different .for them as a guest There’s a place for this but it isn’t here.

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Satisfying some little strange compulsion or something, I don’t know. I asked him/her above but no response. Of course, this is a forum for Airbnb hosts but we’re not over-strict (being the lovely tolerant people we are :slight_smile: )

Presumably he/she doesn’t go to Home Depot to buy a few salmon steaks or into Starbucks to buy a pair of shoes. But he/she joins a forum for Airbnb hosts despite not being a host.

Bizarre behaviour, that’s for sure.

But don’t worry, as you know moderators can zap people of they become too bothersome. :crazy_face:

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I don’t mind at all when guests post on hosting forums, as long as they are respectful and understanding. It’s often useful to see how guest’s think, why they think that way, what they would find valuable, etc. We may never get this from our own guests, because they aren’t sitting down and writing their views.

For instance, I read a guest post somewhere from a frequent Airbnb user. He posted about hosts using wide-angle lenses and other photographic options, which distorted the space and makes it look larger than it really is. He found it deceptive, and I agree that it is.

But harangues like Notahost’s, where they aren’t interested in listening to anything hosts have to say, or consider why hosts might do something that had never occurred to them, like not post their internet speed because that could give guests an opening to demand a refund, have no value at all to me.

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Of course and I agree, but there are plenty of places for that already. It’s nice to have just this one place that isn’t bogged down with guest issues. It isn’t generally my expectation but it has generally been that way here.

For the most part we have that here:)

RR

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That sounds pretty silly, especially if they don’t list linen which is what we have. Doh

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This seems to be a perfect example that guests do not read the listing. Nor do they want to. @Notahost looks at the pictures, searches the amenities, and “assumes” the rest or moves on.

As @JJD points out, many of your questions can be answered simply by reading the rest of the listing. ABB adds amenities on occasion, but I doubt they will be able to account for every unique feature of every listing. Yes, it can be long. Yes, it takes a bit of time on the guests part to be informed. Most of us, as hosts, spend a great deal of time and effort in making sure our listing is as accurate as possible. All the guest has to do is read it.

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Absolutely wrong.

With over 200 airbnb stays across the world in 35 different countries, being a long term landlord with multiple rentals and a former short term rental host I’m probably the most qualified of anyone here to understand how to make money in this business. What you guys put up with through Aibbnb is ridiculous and then you defend them? LOL silly.

With the current state of the world with Covid, the vast majority of hosts are likely not going to see anything close to what they were getting in 2019 for a minimum of 12-24 months if we are all lucky. I would think hosts would be doing everything they can to leverage their properties advantages instead of going on a ego rant and giving such ridiculous advice as “message the host”. If that’s your rental strategy, you’re screwed.

While you’re waiting for your potential guest to message you with questions, he’s already moved onto hit the instant booking button of one of the 5 other properties that were clear and concise.

So, in a nutshell, you are a former short term rental host (not sure if that includes AirBnB) yet you come here and tell everyone that what they are doing is wrong and you know so much better?

Just because you ate 200 different ice creams, and you once sold ice cream from the front of your house, that doesn’t make you a good ice cream maker, innit?

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Oh and by the way, on one hand you say this:

And then you malign hosts for

Dude, you do realise the irony in that right?

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All I’ll say is keep defending the prison guard who is beating you every day, explaining how he needs to do this … well makes sense to me. :+1:

@Notahost I think you misunderstood my post. What I am saying is that most hosts work within the parameters of ABB (or whatever site you use) while also trying to give guests as much information as possible. I, for one, will try and explain exactly what “free onsite parking” is, or that guests will likely hear the upstairs neighbors on occasion, by making a note of that where ABB allows me to, ie: in the other things to note section or some such.

I, too, own long term rentals, and have been in the hospitality industry for over 30 years. So to say you’re “probably the most qualified here” is just silly. You certainly cannot know the qualifications/experiences of every poster here.

And how you read that I was defending ABB is a mystery.

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Oh my God, we should be so grateful you’re here then. You can tell us all what we’ve being doing wrong all these years.

Another newish member who should read more and type less.

TMTOTH

JF

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Right? Personally, it’s the only specific type that I’d be interested in knowing about as a guest.

And I’m predicting a future emotional post from some host that just got dinged in the review for advertising “Egyptian Cotton” when their bed linens are technically “Pima Cotton”. It’s gonna include the guest saying they took a picture of the tag on the sheets. And the host will say, “it’s really the same, it’s just grown in different parts of the world. It’s so unfair”.

March and April in Phoenix are prime season and while my revenue for those months was dramatically affected the demand started up again in May, and my bookings for this summer are 3x what it was in 2019, even with rates I’d normally never charge in 110-115 F temperature summer.

What I’ve seen is that
1.people are avoiding hotels and choosing AirBNB, primarily to avoid having to wear masks, and to avoid people.
2.people are looking for a break; finding a safe respite has increased demand even during the dog days of Arizona summer.

I can’t predict what my full 2020 outlook will be but if it’s consistent with last autumn I will be pretty much on par with 2019, having overcome the shortfall of March/April.

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